THE APOCALYPSE SURVIVAL STORY (M+/M) *NEW POLL JAN 19*

[OrdinaryWorld]

B! Least terrible and unpleasant option

[Pup Wingletang]

The anger is real now that Jeremy has helped Steven get rid of that pent up horniness! I love him raging at Nick even though Nick hasn't really played any role in what has happen to Steven today (apart from rescuing him from the closet!). But it's Nick's sack robbing him of his freedom and Nick's gag filling up his mouth so he can't speak and has to breath in Nick's foot stench. Even when he's absent Nick is still completely dominating Steven's life.

Thank God Andrew, Ryan and Corey came along to help distract him from his woes. As always Ryan is his wonderfully sadistic self but it's Andrew's compulsion to keep tightening Josh's restraints that really shines through for me!

As for the latest question, I think I'm going to have to pick B a magically transport myself into Steven's tight sleepsack with my mouth stuffed with that inflatable gag. That's not to say that Josh and Ethan's predicaments aren't also appealing!

[Starcomet]

Oh I would choose C. Joshua's place! I want to be forced in a gas mask and forced to inhale nothing but Nick's foot odor. It cannot be that bad!

[Volobond]

One of the captors, for me! Being just a tad more observant and interested in the bois than the hunks I'd probably be hunting down the still-free Jeremy

[ChairBoy]

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IF YOU COULD ENTER THE STORY & CHOOSE A FATE,
WHOSE PLACE WOULD YOU TAKE RIGHT NOW?

A - ETHAN'S PLACE
B - STEVEN'S PLACE
C - JOSHUA'S PLACE
D - RANDOM DRAW
(BETWEEN THE FIRST THREE OPTIONS)

OR

E - ONE OF THE CAPTORS

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ETHAN for sure! I can always go for a daddy dom situation! Although I’m definitely feeling bob is feeling left out and needs his own independent chance to dom a brat? Deserving or not! lol that’s what I love about him! And I picked Ethan because the toying that Mitch does? The teasing?! Mmm chefs kiss!!

[4toes]

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IF YOU COULD ENTER THE STORY & CHOOSE A FATE,
WHOSE PLACE WOULD YOU TAKE RIGHT NOW?

A - ETHAN'S PLACE
B - STEVEN'S PLACE
C - JOSHUA'S PLACE
D - RANDOM DRAW
(BETWEEN THE FIRST THREE OPTIONS)

OR

E - ONE OF THE CAPTORS

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B, my good sir. Would really love to be paired with Nick. Curious as to how much I would be able to tolerate my partner's FO. Haven't had the chance and I am interested also how to be loved by a Nick. Loved to a point that there is no intention of letting go even I wanted to already. How is it spending the rest of my life partnered to Nick.

[GoBucks]

I've been away this weekend for a wedding, but wow what a hot couple of chapters to come back to!

For the wrestling poll, I voted Shawn. I would love to be pinned down and forced to worship that stanky bubble butt

In terms of who's position I'd rather be in, it always shifts based on what is happening to them! I guess right now, I would least want to be Steven because I hate the plug gag.

I really would like to be Josh and get to inhale Ryan and Corey's junk scent! Or to be Ethan and get Mitch's skiddy briefs in the mouth? Ahh so hard to choose! I might need to split my soul like Voldemort into all of them

[Red86]

So I had a little catching up to do. I honestly hope Jeremy enjoys his regin of terror hes been subjecting Ethan and Steven to! Eventually this is likely to backfire on him. At the very least, he'll have a target painted on his back when Steven and more then likely Ethan to, make plans to return the favor

As for the wrestling polling. I'm not big on wrestling but if I was to do it, any of the boys, Josh, Ethan, Steven or Jeremy would be fine. Ultimately I keep seeming to default to Ethan and since it was only one option, I kept with him.

The latest questionnaire, who's place would I choose? Thats kind of easy but also difficult. The rare side of me says Steven since he's not in an overly crazy situation. He's only dealing with the sleepsack and plug gag, which I could handle both. But the smell is the turn off for me. I have my rare switch moments and don't mind being tied up on my terms when in the mood but one thing that'll ruin a scene for me, awful smells. So between being mostly dom and the fact all the subs are dealing with things I will not tolerate, I'm voting E, one of the captors!

[sock slave boy]

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IF YOU COULD ENTER THE STORY & CHOOSE A FATE,
WHOSE PLACE WOULD YOU TAKE RIGHT NOW?

A - ETHAN'S PLACE
B - STEVEN'S PLACE
C - JOSHUA'S PLACE
D - RANDOM DRAW
(BETWEEN THE FIRST THREE OPTIONS)

OR

E - ONE OF THE CAPTORS

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ETHAN's place doesn't seem bad to me, but it seems too simple and without any real twist, except in the event that all the players at the table decide to have fun with it, the poor kid who left for a good day finds himself in a more than critical situation.

JOSUE's place is ideal, very restrictive, a real torture, the dream of every young adult I think, but the unknown nature of all these obstacles bothers me, we will need more details. He who thought he would have a good birthday was practically punished.

STEVEN's place and perfect, apart from the long day tied up in a closet, here he is again tied up and forced to sniff the bad smell of his husband, the worst being that he has no real company, which is very frustrating for me think.

so to choose my preference I would say (B - PLACE
OF STEVEN), while waiting to have more details for Josué, on the other hand I wonder what gives the (D - RANDOM DRAW) knowing that I was plunging at the luck

[Subboi]

I think being in Steven’s place would be my choice so B.

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IF YOU COULD ENTER THE STORY & CHOOSE A FATE,
WHOSE PLACE WOULD YOU TAKE RIGHT NOW?

A - ETHAN'S PLACE
B - STEVEN'S PLACE
C - JOSHUA'S PLACE
D - RANDOM DRAW
(BETWEEN THE FIRST THREE OPTIONS)

OR

E - ONE OF THE CAPTORS

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[Subboi]

The breath play with Master Ryan was

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THE BIRTHDAY SURPRISE
THE APOCALYPSE SURVIVAL STORY

The next half hour or so proved arduous to the extreme. Probably even more so for Josh, who, unlike me, was stuck drawing whiffs directly out of my notoriously foul-footed husband's big fuming leather police boot.

Still, Josh's arguably direr fate was of little consolation to me at the time. As the minutes ticked by and my desperation grew more serious, so too did my anger towards the brawny leviathan who had so assertively taken me as his personal consort.

I could see him. In my mind, I mean. I could see him just sitting there, at the living room table; with his fat bums, huge thighs and stupidly thick arms. I could see him; singularly focused on winning the stupid board game and utterly oblivious to the fact that I was choking on the positively stomach-churning fumes wafting out of his godforsaken police boots.


I was stuck in his maddeningly infuriating curfew sack, with his big, stupid rubber bulb filling my mouth and keeping me quiet - his gag of choice for those occasions that warranted someone's enforced silencing.

The puke-inducing reek that filled the room and wafted up my defenceless nostrils was such that I genuinely grew angry and tried - repeatedly - fighting my brutish husband's fat plug; struggling like mad to get some sort of audible scream for help out. I grew even more furious upon recalling how Mitch had inflated the thing and ordered me to suck on what he'd so eloquently qualified as being my fat pacifier. The more I thought about it, the more I realised that's exactly what it was. A big, fat pacifier gag.

Alas, my vocal struggle was nothing more than a pointless endeavour. There could be no victory against my beefy husband's tyrannical mouth-plug. No workaround. No compromise. His gag allowed for no talking, just as his - or in this case, Zack's - sack allowed for no freedom.

Had it not been for the downright eyewatering stench of his feet, I could've lived with it.
But this wasn't hot or funny or even slightly arousing anymore. Quite the opposite. This was maddening!
I wanted out, and I wanted out now. "Mmmggghph!"






Much to Joshua's undoubtedly great relief, the end of the Monopoly game soon marked the arrival of his would-be rescuers. Rescuers who had no intention of releasing him from his outrageously fat stretcher-bound cocoon, but who at least saw fit to free his breathing nozzle from the indescribably putrid depths of my handsome husband's cavernous boot.


All three of them - Ryan, Andrew and Corey - took turns lamenting the overpowering stench that permeated the bedroom before quickly diverging into their respective traits and behavioural patterns.

Andrew was still wearing his long basketball shorts and trainers, but in light of the tardy hour and the fact that the guys were apparently ready to call it a night, I wasn't at all surprised to see the other two strutting in wearing nothing but their socks and undies.

In any case, the hairy-legged gamer paid me little heed, and aside from crinkling his attractive face at the sheer intensity of my husband's out-of-control foot odour, he focused most of his attention on tightening all the straps that kept Joshua's heavily sleeping bagged form bound to the stretcher.

He and his dad were both jumbo-soled, efficient and highly skilled at what they did, but personality-wise, it didn't take long for me to realise just how dissimilar the two of them were. Personality-wise, it seemed as though Mitch had a lot more in common with his younger son Ethan.


Master Corey was a different animal altogether. He professed some measure of pity for what Josh was being put through, while at the same time betraying poorly concealed amusement and no small measure of unspoken arousal. The shaggy-haired heartthrob was packing a serious monster down there, and it was sorta hard to miss the rather prominent bulging between his thighs every time someone happened to be tied up, restrained or gagged in his presence. Tonight was hardly different, what with the rather extreme bulging at the front of his very heavily distressed green boxers and all.


As for Master Ryan, he too professed sympathy for our plight, albeit in a far more deceptive, sly and two-faced manner. His words were kind and almost soothing as they spilt out of his shapely mouth. But the predatory smile he bore on his annoyingly perfect face betrayed their emptiness.

Ryan was a dangerous one for sure. Smart, calculating, seductive and sinister. In another life, if I had never met Nick, I could've fallen for that. Perhaps a little too easily for my own good.


The stud caressed my hair with his fingers, told me how perfectly delectable I looked and even pinched my nostrils shut a few times; apparently as a means of seeing whether the undefeatable plug gag was as airtight as it seemed. It was.

Even when the burning of my lungs became manifest, I remained quiet and made sure not to object. I couldn't. I didn't want to.

The silver-tongued, jockstrap-clad stallion slowly rose up from the bed and calmly strode over towards Joshua's gurney-bound form; giving me an unmistakably privileged view of his heavy-looking front basket pouch, not to mention the very large and sizeable glory-globes that jutted out like mountains above his muscular thighs. In other words, perfection.





Though the reek of my husband's unfathomably revolting foot odour seemed to grow even more intense upon Joshua's breathing tube being freed of the boot, the ensuing spectacle proved enough of a distraction to temporarily amuse me.

As soon as Andrew freed the end of the bound birthday-boy's breathing tube and tossed the fuming boot down to the floor where it belonged - no doubt in preparation for Josh's transportation out of the bedroom - his far craftier and more conniving colleague found amusement in the blond captive's precarious predicament.

The cruellest and cockiest of smirks couldn't help but creep its way onto Master Ryan's face as he stood there, holding Joshua's undefendable breathing tube in one hand while at the same time clogging the end of it with the other.


Poor Josh convulsed in his frighteningly lightless, multi-layered sleeping bag cocoon. He let out a series of heavily muffled and very desperate-sounding screams upon realising that his ability to draw air had suddenly been cut off.

Staying true to his duty-driven self, Andrew instinctively reacted by going over the numerous stretcher straps again and tightening them off one at a time. Ryan merely bit his lower lip and grinned as Josh grew more desperate. Corey just watched; the now downright massive bulge at the front of his tremendously overworked boxers giving little doubt as to the disturbing size of his equipment.

The audible sound of rushing air noisily filled the bedroom as soon as Ryan allowed his palm to depart from the open end of Joshua's breathing tube.

Poor Josh wasn't out of the woods though. Far from it. He was suffocated again; only being awarded momentary reprieves and constantly being cut off before he could completely fill his lungs up. It was enough to break even the most resilient and iron-willed of individuals. And Ryan got a major kick out of it.

As arousing as it was, the real spectacle, however, wasn't the hand-smothering. It came when the sadistic stallion conjured up a far more...imaginative way of smothering the trapped prisoner. One that involved pressing the breathing tube's open end against various body parts. Body parts that included not only his own very prominently jutting jockstrap pouch, but also his jumbo-thighed buddy's immensely oversized, low-hanging meat sack. Corey's giant meat sack.





Although Josh had no way of understanding what was happening or knowing who was tormenting him, to say that I envied him at that moment would've been something of an understatement. Happy birthday, fucker.

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[squirrel]

I take Ethan's place!

[bondagefreak]

Looking at some of the answers so far, it suddenly hit me that I may have left the door wide open for misinterpretation.

"IF YOU COULD ENTER THE STORY & CHOOSE A FATE, WHOSE PLACE WOULD YOU TAKE RIGHT NOW?" was meant to refer to the different predicaments Steven, Ethan and Josh currently find themselves in. Not their broader lives or positions at the cabin. Hope this clears the questionnaire up a bit. Feel free to go over your answer and edit it if you interpreted the question differently.

[Footsub123]

@bondagefreak I'll have to agree with @socjuc and go for B aha

[puffalover]

This might be obvious given my love for sleeping bag bondage, but I’m going with C.

Despite being gas masked and force to smell Nick’s beyond putrid boot, I’d still love to be strapped down in that huge sleeping bag like Joshua currently is. Call me crazy but I think that would be a fun birthday treat. Also the added sensory deprivation and not knowing when I’ll be let out of that massive bag is my kind of torture.

[Bradstick]

I guess Shawn and I were also close due to the fact that we slept in the same bed each night. Yes, that's right. Bob's cottage was spacious and housed a plurality of bedrooms, but even though we'd raided long abandoned houses and managed to collect several large mattresses, bed space was still somewhat limited. In other words, were were multiple guys per bedroom and each bed had to be shared by at least two occupants. As such, I shared a bed not only with Nick but also with Shawn.

Sleeping on a twin-sized mattress with the two freakishly endowed blond musclemen usually resulted in me being squashed in between them - something that my husband often remedied by pulling me squarely underneath him, that way he and his burly cousin could enjoy a bit more leg space. Suffice it to say, Shawn and I had grown close over the years and oft were the nights where I was called upon to relieve him with my mouth and pay special tribute to his immense musculature.

I am giving this story a reread as I’ve missed a lot of it. This part stuck out to me by how absolutely hot this scene is. Sharing a bed with those two hunks. And then have your husband make more room by sleeping on top you while you are bound in a sleep sack. Absolutely hot!

[Socksbound]

Last two chapters have been really hot. Jeremy is clearly learning a thing or two from Zac. Ryan and his breath play was exquisite totally loved it.

Now your poll question about wrestling, and the like was quite tough I jumped between a few people but ended on Ryan.

Your other question I’m going for E one of the captors assuming Jeremy is considered one of those . I’d want to be in Jeremy’s place in the story

[Stormee]

I will have to go with my choices of between Steven and Josh's place. I want to be zipped up in the tight sleepsack and gagged with the inflatable gag. While at the same time, I'm in the fat mummy bags and gurney straps like Josh is and have the gas mask and hose sticking out.

[Pup Wingletang]

Your other question I’m going for E one of the captors assuming Jeremy is considered one of those . I’d want to be in Jeremy’s place in the story

I'm not going to change my vote but I like the way your mind works! I hadn't even considered taking on the role of the arch villain of the piece. Having lots of fun but still very much at risk.

[Lovethemsocks]

C. Being forced to smell Nicks disgusting boots all day and then getting the gift of Ryan's dirty jockstrap pouch! What a dream come true. And the added mystery of not even knowing what is going in or who is doing it!

[Bradstick]

* NEW POLL *

IF YOU WERE IN THIS POST-APOCALYPSE SCENARIO,
WHO WOULD YOU MOST WANT AS YOUR BF/HUSBAND/2ND HALF?


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I would go with Ryan! For one his is not taken by any other dependents. According to Steven, he is nice and can be affectionate. He can also be sadistic when it comes to bondage. Everything I look for in a partner!

[bondagefreak]

I guess Shawn and I were also close due to the fact that we slept in the same bed each night. Yes, that's right. Bob's cottage was spacious and housed a plurality of bedrooms, but even though we'd raided long abandoned houses and managed to collect several large mattresses, bed space was still somewhat limited. In other words, were were multiple guys per bedroom and each bed had to be shared by at least two occupants. As such, I shared a bed not only with Nick but also with Shawn.

Sleeping on a twin-sized mattress with the two freakishly endowed blond musclemen usually resulted in me being squashed in between them - something that my husband often remedied by pulling me squarely underneath him, that way he and his burly cousin could enjoy a bit more leg space. Suffice it to say, Shawn and I had grown close over the years and oft were the nights where I was called upon to relieve him with my mouth and pay special tribute to his immense musculature.

I am giving this story a reread as I’ve missed a lot of it. This part stuck out to me by how absolutely hot this scene is. Sharing a bed with those two hunks. And then have your husband make more room by sleeping on top you while you are bound in a sleep sack. Absolutely hot!

Welcome back to the adventure, buddy-boi! I'm glad Steven sharing a cramped bed with Nick & Shawn fires up your imagination and presses a few of your buttons I really like the fact that you're answering previous polls. Kudos for that.

[Bradstick]

* NEW POLL *

WHICH TWO GUYS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE MORE OF IN THIS ADVENTURE?


MAXIMUM OF TWO (2) VOTES PER USER
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From this point in the story, I would love to see more of Nick and Zack. They have been away on business for most of the story, but I love them both dearly. They have both been mentioned but never fully in. I loved hearing about Steven sleeping arrangements as well Zack’s terrible gag regimen for Jeremey.

I am rather curious how Zack and Nick will take Jeremy little betrayal. Not bringing Nick into the loop at all is bad enough, but deceiving Zack to get those two alone. I do not see this ending well for Jeremy!

[Bradstick]

* NEW POLL *

NEW POLL FOR ALL YOU SUBS,
SWITCHES & GUYS THAT LIKE TO BE BOUND

HAD YOU BEEN HOGTIED IN THE CLOSET WITH ETHAN & STEVEN, WHICH OF THE TWO IN-STORY
ITEMS USED BY JEREMY WOULD YOU HAVE PREFERRED BEING TEASED WITH & FORCED TO SNIFF?

_________________________________________

BRAD'S VERY FUNKY OLD HIGH-TOP TRAINERS

OR

RYAN'S SUPER STRONG-SMELLING JOCK-POUCH

_________________________________________

*P-s. BOTH is not a valid answer. This is a "one or the other" type poll.

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I would take the jock over the shoes. I am the opposite of the Ethan in that sense. Where he likes socks/shoes and is not fan of underwear, I am the opposite. I would prefer any of their underwear before I would take a pair of socks. Ryan’s jock would be top pick out of any of the other members of the party. Definitely was a little jealous of those two if I’m being honest lol!

[Bradstick]

* NEW POLL *

In the most recent chapter, Steven relates the awkwardness and slight unease of his current - and probably future - interactions with some of his housemates. To recapitulate, Steven was :

- Physically arrested, taken into custody, zip-tied and escorted away by Corey.
- Hangagged, muffled and unintentionally smothered by Big Mike's huge palms.
- Forcibly stuff-gagged and muffled with one of Andrew's really dingy, week-old stink bombs.
- Forced (by Jeremy) to sniff and cum to the scent of Brad's very funky old high-top trainer.
- Forced (by Jeremy) to sniff and cum to the scent of Ryan's super strong-smelling jock-pouch.

THIS IS A MULTI-QUESTION POLL

HAD YOU BEEN ARRESTED, BOUND UP AND PUT THROUGH ALL OF THESE THINGS,
WOULD YOUR FUTURE INTERACTIONS WITH THE GUYS ALSO FEEL A BIT AWKWARD FOR A TIME?

YES OR NO?

IF YES, WHO WOULD YOU FEEL MOST AWKWARD INTERACTING WITH?

COREY
BIG MIKE
ANDREW
BRAD
RYAN


STEP 1 - SCROLL TO THE TOP AND VOTE ON QUESTION 1
STEP 2 - IF YOU VOTED "YES" THEN VOTE ON QUESTION 2
STEP 3 - POST A COMMENT TO LET US KNOW HOW YOU VOTED!

In Steven’s position I would absolutely find it hard to go back to normal. Being arrested and being bound for pleasure are different. I would see Brad and Ryan in a new light having gotten off on their different scents. For me though, Andrew would be that hardest adjustment. The dependents are report to him, having your superior in the chain of command tie you up and gag you with their own socks would require some adjustment.